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bababarararacucucudadada

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Re: Ireland, Northern Ireland and Brexit
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2017, 06:02:22 PM »
It's pointless pointing out the points David Davis made here.

I will anyway.

David Davis in his own words:


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« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2017, 09:15:05 PM »
An acute case of Brexitphobia.

Let's stay positive. As the 6th biggest economy in the world....we definitely won't get kicked into touch by the bigger economies. They need us like we need them.

And to all the Remoaners( know you hate this tag): be positive. It will work out in the end.

Why would they bother investment in a place which has deliberately left a fantastic trading agreement, and is publicly making a mess of things in the exit negotiation.

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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2017, 10:39:06 PM »
UK gold exports trade deficit brexit. Look it up.

Sir Rocis de Liver

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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2017, 10:07:32 AM »
Is it fucking necessary to be so dramatic and breathless from working through the night to get an agreement?
Are we supposed to applaud Maybot?
More important, WHAT is the agreement?
How has the circle of the Irish border been squared?
So far, just waffle.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 10:09:31 AM by Sir Rocis de Liver »

bababarararacucucudadada

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Re: Ireland, Northern Ireland and Brexit
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2017, 11:19:54 AM »
We're going to take back control of our borders by not having one.

There's going to be freedom of movement with the EU, freedom of movement within Ireland and freedom of movement within the UK.

Quite how this is going to help to control EU immigration into the UK is beyond me.

bababarararacucucudadada

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Re: Ireland, Northern Ireland and Brexit
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2017, 11:33:09 AM »
On top of which UK will obey EU regulations without any say in them, European Court supremacy in some areas and EU payments continue for years, EU Citizens rights in UK guaranteed.

Brexit means Brexit?

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Re: Ireland, Northern Ireland and Brexit
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2017, 11:36:21 AM »

bababarararacucucudadada

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Re: Ireland, Northern Ireland and Brexit
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2017, 11:49:57 AM »
We're going to negotiate hard and get the best Brexit deal possible and that will be either whatever the EU decides to let us have or nothing at all.

For which we'll pay a vast sum of money, lose free access to the EU market and have absolutely no say over regulations which we will have to abide by anyway which we once could have vetoed.

That's what taking back control will mean to us.

The words "Pyrrhic" and "Victory" spring to mind. In fact "victories" don't get much Pyrrhicer.

Sir Rocis de Liver

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Re: Ireland, Northern Ireland and Brexit
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2017, 11:59:38 AM »
We lost on the ECJ
We lost on having control of our borders.
We lost out on paying £20 billion, now £40 billion and rising.
We lost on not being in the Customs union for the transition period.
This is Maybot’s ‘Red, White and Blue’ Brexit.
Strong and stable?
What a liar this woman is.
And a vicar’s daughter too.
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Return of the Mac

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Re: Ireland, Northern Ireland and Brexit
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2017, 01:01:19 PM »
She has bad posture problem. No one taught how to keep her back straight.

I do feel sorry for her...not because she's a damn Tory...but I think she's getting bullied by the men in her party. The enemy within.

Sir Rocis de Liver

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« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2017, 04:57:40 PM »
Your first line - she always looks as if she’s about to evacuate her bowels.


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Re: Ireland, Northern Ireland and Brexit
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2017, 06:50:05 PM »
ha ... born & live in NI = you remain an EU citizen & will presumably vote for your MEP in summer 2019 ... WTAF?

bababarararacucucudadada

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Re: Ireland, Northern Ireland and Brexit
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2017, 11:41:56 PM »
Brexit negotiations, to date:

• Same regulations
• Same open borders
• Same European courts
• Same single market
• Same payments to EU

But:
• Lost all say in EU rules
• Squandered 1000s of jobs
• Knocked 18% off the pound
• Risked the Union
• Spent £50 billion

Sir Rocis de Liver

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« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2017, 09:39:08 AM »
I read somewhere that MPs and especially the Cabinet become so far removed from people and remote from everyday life that they they live in a World of their own.
It’s in the very nature of our representative democracy.
Hence, say, Farage, and abroad, Trump and Mare le Pen.
I am beginning to think there is some truth in this.
Especially, Vinegar Lil.
Is she really unaware of how much she is reviled?
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Return of the Mac

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Re: Ireland, Northern Ireland and Brexit
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2017, 06:31:31 PM »
We did say that she was Weak and Wobbly.