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Title: F1
Post by: Major Arcana on September 12, 2010, 04:40:57 PM
Did anyone else watch Hamilton spick it massively on the first lap earlier.

Button would have had it nailed if it wasn`t for that flangey pit stop.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on September 12, 2010, 04:46:44 PM
aye, haha hamilton fecks up again --- should have waited for a gap he should
Title: Re: F1
Post by: alexander orlov on September 13, 2010, 08:23:48 PM
Reckless aggressive fool.  A solid fourth place would have been good for him for the points. Not the first time this season he's fucked it.   

Gonna be a good finish this year!
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on September 13, 2010, 08:34:29 PM
It'll be a good finish so long as it doesn't feature Alonso winning, which I can't see happening, I don't rate Ferrari's chances on any other circuit.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on September 13, 2010, 08:48:07 PM
Mark Webber's turn I think
Title: Re: F1
Post by: alexander orlov on September 13, 2010, 08:54:12 PM
Mark Webber's turn I think

Lewis Lewis!!
Title: Re: F1
Post by: wotan on September 14, 2010, 03:27:01 AM
I lost interest in F1 when Fangio retired.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: alexander orlov on September 27, 2010, 09:45:11 AM
What a nob Hamilton is.  He just can't stop charging can he?  Finish a god damn race sunshine, get some points. Win when the chance is there...buffoon!
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on September 27, 2010, 12:34:25 PM
What a nob Hamilton is.  He just can't stop charging can he?  Finish a god damn race sunshine, get some points. Win when the chance is there...buffoon!
his pit crew had (wrongly) told him Webber was in trouble (when Webber was just conserving tyres) and Hamilton did as they told him to, have a go at passing --- and of course in all too typical McLaren fashion it was bad advice -- Webber was lucky, very lucky to keep the tyre on on the wheel from the incident -- was a few mm away from losing the tyre (they found later)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on September 27, 2010, 12:52:54 PM
Appears I was wrong with Ferrari, at least at Shanghi.

Alonso has the momento and also that fact that his team mate is not a factor in the WDC.

Now it seems Korean may not happen at this rate.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: alexander orlov on September 27, 2010, 02:49:47 PM
his pit crew had (wrongly) told him Webber was in trouble (when Webber was just conserving tyres) and Hamilton did as they told him to, have a go at passing --- and of course in all too typical McLaren fashion it was bad advice -- Webber was lucky, very lucky to keep the tyre on on the wheel from the incident -- was a few mm away from losing the tyre (they found later)

Cheers my dvr cut off right at the end of the race and I haven't read anything about it.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on November 07, 2010, 08:20:15 PM
aye well very little chance of anyone at mclaren winning a title in F1 this year .... Red Bull are champions as of today, perhaps one of their drivers will be champion next week ??
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on November 08, 2010, 12:36:14 PM
I would hope so.

And Lewis is his own worst enemy and only has himself to blame really.

Button should get car-jacked more often if that is how he drives.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: alexander orlov on November 13, 2010, 07:27:54 PM
  Alonso and Webber take each other out.   Hamilton wins, Button Second and Vettle comes in third.

  Hamilton wins the championship. 

  ;D
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on November 13, 2010, 07:32:28 PM
^ someones trying to fish for a reaction ... lol ... as  a long time mclaren hater I hope not ... imo it's between webber & alonso whoever wins race ... as webber hasn't won a drivers championship I hope he gets it ..... BUT alonso winning on the home ground of Ferrari's big sponsor (with ferrari world at side of track) would be popular there
Title: Re: F1
Post by: alexander orlov on November 13, 2010, 09:40:26 PM
Nah no reactions, just my wish is all.

 Alonso has to be fave now placing third on the grid.  Webber and Vettel both need McLarens help or each others to win.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: alexander orlov on November 14, 2010, 10:45:14 PM
bollocks  >:(
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on November 14, 2010, 10:48:51 PM
twas fixed for Vettel perhaps ... or perhaps not?

shame haha didn't have a grind at the barriers ... but can't have everything right in each race
Title: Re: F1
Post by: alexander orlov on November 14, 2010, 10:53:40 PM
twas fixed for Vettel perhaps ... or perhaps not?

shame haha didn't have a grind at the barriers ... but can't have everything right in each race

Poor decision from Ferrari to pit Alonso when they did.   I got up early to watch it live and at the time I was thinking  "how the hell is he going to get passed all this traffic?" 

Alonso never once looked like getting past the Renaults.  Webber looked less competetive than that. 
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on November 15, 2010, 07:59:00 AM
Poor decision from Ferrari to pit Alonso when they did.   I got up early to watch it live and at the time I was thinking  "how the hell is he going to get passed all this traffic?"

I thought that at the time, but the drivers who'd changed tyres under the Safety Car were recording faster times after 7-8 laps than the ones still on soft tyres, so Ferrari were screwed either way. If they'd waited a few more laps, they still wouldn't have opened a big enough gap on Rosberg and Petrov, and they risked Webber getting in front of them.

As it turned out, the soft tyres recovered after a period of degradation, so Ferrari might have been OK if they'd held on, but they weren't to know that.

Biggest problem was the track design - overtaking was all but impossible, especially since the Renaults had a top-speed advantage, so Alonso could never get close enough to Petrov to outbrake him.

I thought there might be a chance that Massa could make a difference after the pit stops, but Alguersuari moved over for Webber and then held Massa up for the rest of the race.

Altogether a disappointing finish to the season - not that I cared particularly about the result, more the fact that it became a procession, which must have been really frustrating for the title contenders and their supporters.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on November 15, 2010, 10:31:38 AM
To be fair to this season, only the first and last races were the boring ones, I enjoyed the others.

I watched this final race on iplayer and one thing summed it up for me was Alonso chastising Petrov at the end of the race - hey, Fernando, he isn't your bitch team mate so he doesn't have to move out of the way, you'll have to use your 'superior driving ability' to get round him.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on December 04, 2010, 03:36:08 PM
Seems F1 could be going back to 4 cylinder turbo engines in next few years, 100cc larger capacity than last time -- 1.6 litre LINK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9255871.stm)  8)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: wotan on December 05, 2010, 04:23:51 AM
To be fair to this season, only the first and last races were the boring ones, I enjoyed the others.

I watched this final race on iplayer and one thing summed it up for me was Alonso chastising Petrov at the end of the race - hey, Fernando, he isn't your bitch team mate so he doesn't have to move out of the way, you'll have to use your 'superior driving ability' to get round him.


Watch MotoGP far more interesting than F1. No one does it better than Valentino Rossi.

03/10/2010 MOTEGI (japan) LORENZO vs ROSSI:IL GRAN DUELLO ITA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glEak4ZSTKQ#)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on December 10, 2010, 04:56:54 PM
just announced todayRule banning 'team orders' deleted
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on February 06, 2011, 06:42:08 PM
Looks like Robert Kubica might not be fit for the new season - shame, as Renault were looking competitive in testing.

Kubica seriously injured in crash (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5ga0wHS5RSZkeZ8_l3O5diAD7VKIg?docId=N0579431297008292660A)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on February 06, 2011, 07:24:20 PM
hope the arm he broke isn't the one already with titanium rods after an old crash ... could  slow the recovery a bit & maybe put super licence in limbo
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on February 10, 2011, 12:50:44 PM
seems ford's lawyered up with some idiots LINK (http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsport/story/40420.html) ... lawsuit over a codename for an F1 car that won't go on sale to public, wont be seen in USA and doesn't remotely resemble a ford f150  :weed:
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on May 29, 2011, 05:34:58 PM
FFS --- what a moaning twat lewis hamilton has been at Monaco 2011 --- crashing into & pushing other cars off in a split second too late manoeuvres .. cars which were AHEAD of him on the track then complains that they should have let him past and then claims race stewards are treating him harshly ... the twat treats F1 like rallycross sometimes ... you have to laugh :clap:
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on May 29, 2011, 09:00:03 PM
FFS --- what a moaning twat lewis hamilton has been at Monaco 2011 --- crashing into & pushing other cars off in a split second too late manoeuvres .. cars which were AHEAD of him on the track then complains that they should have let him past and then claims race stewards are treating him harshly ... the twat treats F1 like rallycross sometimes ... you have to laugh :clap:

I have to agree he is a bit of a twat. After saying that I thought he had a point today, Massa had lost the racing line and cut him up. Being a moaning twat he does get the harsh decisions, but that's his own fault.

Great GP had an anti-climax with the late crash though, was really looking forward to the three way fight in the last ten laps. Can't see the season going any other way than Vettel.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on May 29, 2011, 10:10:11 PM
he got 1 penalty for hitting massa at the tight hairpin ... pushing massa into webber in the process ... massa had nowhere else to go imo
other penalty near end made no difference ... 20secs added to his time when he'd lapped next place car was nothing worth complaining about .. changed nothing!
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on May 30, 2011, 11:38:28 AM
Shame, end of the race was a bit of an anti-climax.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on June 04, 2011, 10:48:21 PM
Mark Webber doesn't think much of the decision to reinstate the Bahrain GP.

http://www.thebee.co.uk/news/review.php?article=440199 (http://www.thebee.co.uk/news/review.php?article=440199)

Good for him, but speaking out is probably not a good career move. :(
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on June 12, 2011, 10:37:32 PM
No more Bahrain at least.

More importantly - yet another great (eventually) Canadian GP.

Just hope the final result isn't decided by stewards.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on June 12, 2011, 10:39:07 PM
^ yep button could well get demoted  8) .. he deserves to be as he drives for McLaren anyway :ninja:
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on June 13, 2011, 12:52:22 PM
It appears the results will stand.

Good.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: jason on June 13, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
i loved it .. haven't watched a race 'properly' in a while and did watch this as there was nothing else on.

can't believe that people are claiming that button drove in to hamilton - hamilton himself is claiming button made a mistake even.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on June 13, 2011, 03:17:11 PM
who's saying button drove into mr go for non existent gaps? must be halfwits
Title: Re: F1
Post by: jason on June 13, 2011, 03:19:52 PM
no argument from me there - button had the racing line and was moving across as he should have done.  hamilton tried to take him on the inside in a non-existent gap.

button's cry of "what is he doing?" on the radio soon after certainly suggested he knew he was trying it on
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on June 13, 2011, 08:11:21 PM
Niki Lauda's not impressed (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/8571739/Lewis-Hamiltons-Canadian-Grand-Prix-tactics-provoke-Niki-Lauda-attack.html)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on July 30, 2011, 11:04:55 PM
chance Button won't race on the 31st july .... crashed his merc road car he has ... allegedly

(http://files.myopera.com/barky/albums/618895/button-30jul11.jpg)
pic from jensonbutton.com
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Jenson Button, 31, is in a critical condition after being involved in a serious accident. Jenson was taken to Budapest's AEK hospital where he is undergoing medical attention. It's unclear what injuries Jenson sustained during the accident at this time.

Jenson's team is in contact with the FIA and currently discussing whether he is able to race tomorrow at the Hungaroring.


outside possibility button's website has been hacked?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on July 30, 2011, 11:31:04 PM
Can't find anything else on this story. Lets hope it is a fake...
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on July 31, 2011, 01:30:39 AM
Button hoax story removed from web (http://news.scotsman.com/latest-national-news/Button-hoax-story-removed-from.6810465.jp)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: DJ on July 31, 2011, 01:10:05 PM
Was going to say he's there, watching it now
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on August 27, 2011, 05:35:18 PM
Looks like Maldonado has got himself into big trouble at Spa, for having a swipe at Hamilton on their in-lap after Q2.

Clearly not the kind of behaviour to be encouraged, and he'll probably get at least a one-race ban, but his frustration with Hamilton might be understandable.

Williams are having a very poor season by their standards. Maldonado was in a position to score good points at Monaco, when Hamilton shoved him into the wall to end his race. Today, Maldonado had finished Q1 with the 11th fastest time, and was on course to improve on that on a drying track at the end of Q2, when he was again shoved aside on the final chicane by Hamilton, dropping him to 15th, and out of the top ten shoot-out. Subsequently, Maldonado appeared to give Hamilton a shove back after the session had ended.


Later: the stewards have examined the incident in more detail, and given Maldonado a 5 place grid penalty, because they concluded that Hamilton had contributed to the collision by turning into Maldonado. Hamilton received an official warning.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on October 08, 2011, 05:08:53 PM
Japan:

What was Hamilton doing in Q3? Trying to prevent Webber from posting a time by holding him up before the line? :o
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 08, 2011, 05:20:05 PM
McLaren sent Hamilton out with a very few seconds to spare (had been adjusting something on car) and the driver seemed to not realise he needed to keep moving swiftly & make it over line & was probably trying to leave a few secs gap to car running in front .... despite team telling him he had to keep going faster .... another McLaren fuck up it seems combined with Lewis perhaps having given up on championship now .... laughably he at first blamed Schumacher (who he's done a severe brake test on, forcing him onto grass) but has since said it was his own fault ..... unless Hamilton gets new management, a new 'spark' I think maybe we've seen the best of him?

Have suspicion that McLaren are concentrating on Button  :weed:
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on October 08, 2011, 05:44:00 PM
McLaren sent Hamilton out with a very few seconds to spare (had been adjusting something on car) and the driver seemed to not realise he needed to keep moving swiftly & make it over line & was probably trying to leave a few secs gap to car running in front .... despite team telling him he had to keep going faster .... another McLaren fuck up it seems combined with Lewis perhaps having given up on championship now .... laughably he at first blamed Schumacher (who he's done a severe brake test on, forcing him onto grass) but has since said it was his own fault ..... unless Hamilton gets new management, a new 'spark' I think maybe we've seen the best of him?

Probably right, but it's hard to believe that a driver wouldn't realise how long he had to start his final qualifying lap. Hamilton already had a lap 'in the bag', but I don't believe Webber had recorded one in Q3, which is why I was suspicious.

I notice the BBC commentators are very reluctant to criticise Hamilton, even wrongly blaming Webber and Schumacher, so we don't get a particularly balanced picture from them.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 08, 2011, 06:03:13 PM
The cars having changed so much in recent seasons has meant all the Adrian Newey talent that made McLaren's good enough to allow Hamilton to win a championship is lost now ..... if he was still at McLaren they'd could well be on top rather than Red Bull I strongly suspect ..... exhaust regulation changes could well shift balance next year
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 09, 2011, 02:18:56 PM
Have suspicion that McLaren are concentrating on Button  :weed:
still think Button is the one for McLaren to back .... seems a better driver right now .... next year? who knows!

OH YES .... congrats to the youngest ever double world champ ... only needed 1 point & he got more
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 16, 2011, 11:13:12 PM
Sad News from USA - English driver Dan Wheldon RIP
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Two-time Indianapolis 500 winner and IndyCar Series champion Dan Wheldon has died from his injuries sustained in a crash at the IndyCar Series finale at Las Vegas Motor Speedway, it has been confirmed. He was 33.


rather scary crash
Indycar Crash at Las Vegas Speedway 2011 ~ R.I.P. Dan Wheldon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn08nh7zoto#ws)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on October 18, 2011, 10:28:20 AM
Dan Wheldon was an all-round good guy by all accounts, and a great shame that he should die so young.

Sir Jackie Stewart and Jodie Sheckter (http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/stewart-hits-out-as-crash-driver-is-mourned-1.1129796) have both criticised the poor safety record of the LA Speedway following the crash.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 23, 2011, 10:54:02 AM
a few days go by & another death in motor sport ... this time in MotoGP ... RIP Marco Simoncelli

LINK (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95629) :nooo:
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 30, 2011, 01:35:23 PM
(http://livesniffpetrol.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/PicNews1110271.jpg)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: jason on October 30, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
Track 10 looks good :)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 30, 2011, 02:01:43 PM
more Massa Vs Hamilton activity in India .... somehow Hamilton escaped punishment this time in a seemingly 50/50 coming together with him hitting Massa's BACK wheel .... looked to me like Hamilton going for a non-existent gap with Massa perhaps making 2 moves, although the 2nd move was to get round the corner without leaving the circuit .... What was Massa meant to do ... stop on the corner & let Hamilton past?
If only Massa had broken his Ferrari's suspension a few laps earlier ... lol
Title: Re: F1
Post by: jason on October 30, 2011, 02:29:10 PM
I get the impression Hamilton just adopted a "fuck it" attitude towards the rest of the season when he realised that he had no chance of the world title.

But then i've never liked him.  Massively overrated and too far up his own backside.  Button is a far better driver and deservedly beating him hands down at the moment.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 30, 2011, 02:40:48 PM
But then i've never liked him.  Massively overrated and too far up his own backside.  Button is a far better driver and deservedly beating him hands down at the moment.
I've never liked the 'McLaren approach' which is about all Lewis has ever known (remember him begging Ron Dennis for a McLaren drive live on TV @ age 12 or 13?) .... Button a far better driver as mechanical sympathy, getting to end of race goes right now ... Hamilton needs his management to be closer ... Simon Fuller FFS, more of a showbiz manager than a motorsport one ... a much more appropriate manager must be available?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on October 30, 2011, 02:41:04 PM
I don't get why so many people hate Hamilton. Not that I follow F1 too much, but I watch most of the Grand Prix when I can. Is it his personality or his driving that causes the opprobrium?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 30, 2011, 02:51:46 PM
I don't get why so many people hate Hamilton. Not that I follow F1 too much, but I watch most of the Grand Prix when I can. Is it his personality or his driving that causes the opprobrium?
following pic sums things up
(http://files.myopera.com/barky/albums/618895/bumper-lewis.jpg)

too aggressive, that 'fuck it' attitude, car breaker tendency, spoilt brat .... lacks class
Title: Re: F1
Post by: jason on October 30, 2011, 02:56:36 PM
I don't get why so many people hate Hamilton. Not that I follow F1 too much, but I watch most of the Grand Prix when I can. Is it his personality or his driving that causes the opprobrium?

For me, and i'm not a full-on F1 fan but a bit more than a casual fan, it's both.  I've always had this feeling that he feels he's entitled to the best toys and will only succeed if he's in the fastest car.

And his driving style is too erratic and unsafe - i'm surprised he hasn't caused a more serious accident really.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on October 30, 2011, 03:04:14 PM
I suppose I don't really follow F1 enough to be aware of his personality. And from a casual spectator point of view I actually like the risk takes, it's just like Schumacher in his prime, ploughing through the opposition. F1 is a bit repetitive otherwise, just cars driving round in circles. British Grand Prix is usually good because there's a high chance of rain, but Monaco, what a bore fest....
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 30, 2011, 03:08:09 PM
just spotted this
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Lewis Hamilton believes that death is an acceptable price to pay for doing what one loves and says he could not conceive of a better place to die than in the cockpit.
seems he doesn't want to die an old man!
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on October 30, 2011, 04:51:44 PM
just spotted this seems he doesn't want to die an old man!

Is that a quote or hearsay.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 30, 2011, 04:56:46 PM
Is that a quote or hearsay.
found it on the bbc F1 gossip & rumours section ... Which came originally from here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/8857477/Indian-Grand-Prix-2011-Lewis-Hamilton-says-mortal-danger-a-fair-price-to-pay-for-doing-what-he-loves.html) ... so will have some Wheldon/Simoncelli link .... Hamilton won't be only one of that mindset
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on October 30, 2011, 05:01:04 PM
found it on the bbc F1 gossip & rumours section ... Which came originally from here ([url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/8857477/Indian-Grand-Prix-2011-Lewis-Hamilton-says-mortal-danger-a-fair-price-to-pay-for-doing-what-he-loves.html[/url]) ... so will have some Wheldon/Simoncelli link .... Hamilton won't be only one of that mindset


Do you know that the most dangerous sport/pastime on the planet is swimming. More people die swimming, globally, than any other recognised sport. Motor racing is relatively benign in comparison. ;)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on October 31, 2011, 12:43:56 PM
5/1 odds I read on the next race featuring a Hamilton/Massa coming together.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 31, 2011, 12:53:27 PM
its getting like the old mclaren days of prost Vs senna, hamilton taking the senna approach ... imagine them both in the same team ... lol .. hamilton crashing into massa (typically) to prove some kind of point .... lets not forget that earlier in this season hamilton was seen to try & take button out ... but took himself out instead ... silly boy
Title: Re: F1
Post by: jason on November 01, 2011, 10:43:07 AM
Gotta love Jenson ..

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And when asked about Hamilton's latest bust-up with Felipe Massa Button blasted: "I don't give a f***.

"I don't want to be asked again. It is doing my head in. If you want to interview me, fine, but I don't want to be asked about Lewis again."

True what he says though - he's having a storming run at the moment and everyone seems more interested in his whiny team-mate.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on November 01, 2011, 05:38:41 PM
Bit like this thread....
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on November 03, 2011, 09:19:22 PM
Some team name changes announced:
1. Renault become Lotus
2. Team Lotus become Caterham
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on November 14, 2011, 07:45:03 PM
I see Hamilton had a good win at the weekend.

Got to say that the Abu Dhabi venue is absolutely stunning. Love to stay in that hotel, or on one of those yachts in the harbour for the next race weekend....not sure my wages will quite cover it  >:(
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on November 14, 2011, 07:48:49 PM
lol ... Hamilton won because Vettel went off at turn 2 & couldn't recover car intact to the pits ... I know one of the chaps that was on a boat there
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on November 14, 2011, 07:51:42 PM
lol ... Hamilton won because Vettel went off at turn 2 & couldn't recover car intact to the pits ... I know one of the chaps that was on a boat there

Love to see them all in equivalent cars - if only for a one off race. I reckon Alonso might just sneak it.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on November 14, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
Love to see them all in equivalent cars - if only for a one off race. I reckon Alonso might just sneak it.
suspect you might be right .... how good the car is decides who wins ... driver component in F1 is 20% tops
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on November 14, 2011, 08:40:24 PM
suspect you might be right .... how good the car is decides who wins ... driver component in F1 is 20% tops

You reckon it's that low? Should be the mechanics on the podium then...
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on November 14, 2011, 08:58:16 PM
perhaps I was over simplifying things .... most who hold a super licence are of very similar skill level, the differences in the cars really decides who wins & most of the performance potential is down to the engineering .. tiz a team sport & the drivers add about 20% on top with their split second decisions .... team members DO get on the podium, rarely the same one twice though ...... have never really supported any single driver myself, prefer to concentrate on the teams ... right now leaning towards Red Bull & Ferrari .... McLaren mob are not worthy of support, dislike their way of doing things,  they seem to have no preference for a lead driver which over a number of years has lead to avoidable incidents as both have considered themselves #1 & then there's ron dennis ..............
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Torquemada on November 15, 2011, 12:42:06 AM
If they were all in equivalent cars there would be no F1, development and innovation is the only reason it exists.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: jason on November 15, 2011, 04:41:22 PM
Love to see them all in equivalent cars - if only for a one off race. I reckon Alonso might just sneak it.

I'd like to think Schumacher and Button would be up there if that even happened.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Titus on November 15, 2011, 04:50:33 PM
If they were all in equivalent cars there would be no F1, development and innovation is the only reason it exists.

Indeed, it'd just be A1GP . . . which was a flop.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on November 15, 2011, 06:06:48 PM
It would be A1GP but with drivers who we all know and speculate about who is better. As a one off it would be a marvelous spectacle and settle many a previously unwinable argument.

Chewie, I'd like to think Schumacher is rubbish, however I don't have much evidence at the moment.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on November 26, 2011, 12:07:18 PM
BBC reveals F1 coverage schedule for 2012 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15893254.stm) .... could have done without Korea & Europe ... glad to see Spa is there
SO ... no season opener in Melbourne & no Monza, Suzuka, Montréal, Sepang, Hockenheim, Hungaroring, New Delhi, USA,
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Titus on March 07, 2012, 02:52:46 PM
New season starts again soon. I won't be watching though . . . a one man protest at those bastards at Sky  :scrap:
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on March 07, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
New season starts again soon. I won't be watching though . . . a one man protest at those bastards at Sky  :scrap:

Stream it - that'll really piss Sky off  8)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Titus on March 08, 2012, 09:36:18 AM
Stream it - that'll really piss Sky off  8)

I won't even do that. Less people watching (including via dodgy interweb sites) the less money Santander will pay to have their name plastered all over the cars . . .

I'm not bitter anymore (well, I am but less so at least) about Sky charging a fortune to watch football, as there is no other channel out there that could compete. But the BBC were doing a great job with F1, Sky will just replicate that. Imho, they offer nothing new worth paying for (the F1 channel is just a gimmick)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on March 08, 2012, 10:06:26 AM
...
I'm not bitter anymore (well, I am but less so at least) about Sky charging a fortune to watch football, as there is no other channel out there that could compete...

Off topic, but there is talk that Sky will face stiff competition from Al-Jazeera when then next bidding comes around, which I think is from 2013/2014.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Titus on March 08, 2012, 02:10:43 PM
Off topic, but there is talk that Sky will face stiff competition from Al-Jazeera when then next bidding comes around, which I think is from 2013/2014.

Didn't hear about that, but you're right (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2107652/Al-Jazeera-bid-Premier-League-TV-rights-realistic-prospect.html) . . . Very interesting  :hmmm:

It will just mean prem clubs get even more money to wast though
Title: Re: F1
Post by: trollspeil on March 14, 2012, 11:14:55 PM
Stream it - that'll really piss Sky off  8)

I subscribe to Sky F1 HD and it looks like it's going to be better coverage than the beeb.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Titus on March 15, 2012, 02:16:57 PM
I subscribe to Sky F1 HD and it looks like it's going to be better coverage than the beeb.

How so?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on March 15, 2012, 03:12:52 PM
far more coverage I think ... what's really going to attract an audience beyond race, half hour build up to race, 15mins after race + qualifying I'm not sure .... but probably advertising smothered promotional material will be present on sky f1 along with dull & boring extended interviews with drivers 
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on March 15, 2012, 03:20:09 PM
Nothing drives me more batty on TV than endless speculation beforehand and disection afterwards.

But then again, the F1 people are quite knowledgeable and not as vomit-enducing as say, Adrian Chiles, but that is football.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Titus on March 15, 2012, 04:13:50 PM
far more coverage I think ... what's really going to attract an audience beyond race, half hour build up to race, 15mins after race + qualifying I'm not sure .... but probably advertising smothered promotional material will be present on sky f1 along with dull & boring extended interviews with drivers

Indeed. I don't think more coverage necessarily = better coverage. They'll probably show the practice sessions live, but who is really interested in that? The races will be shown advert free apparently
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Titus on March 15, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
Nothing drives me more batty on TV than endless speculation beforehand and disection afterwards.

But then again, the F1 people are quite knowledgeable and not as vomit-enducing as say, Adrian Chiles, but that is football.

I do enjoy the race buildup, and discetion after the races, but only up to a point. If it goes on too long, it can get annoying. I personally think the BBC had the balance right - an hour or so before the race to catch people up on what's happened in the two weeks between races, and then a half-hour to hour analysis.

What I assume SkyF1 will be doing, is having a prev-race analysis, next-race build up show mid week . . . I doubt I could stomach that amount pointless talking tbh
Title: Re: F1
Post by: trollspeil on March 15, 2012, 10:40:22 PM
How so?

Better sound (Dolby 5.1) Choice of cameras to view including  in car and pit lane...  and of course no ads
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Titus on March 16, 2012, 12:07:45 PM
Better sound (Dolby 5.1) Choice of cameras to view including  in car and pit lane...  and of course no ads

The beeb had ads?  :hmmm: Internal ads perhaps, but SkyF1 will be promoting ManU V Bolton or some such as well . .

The other two are quite gimicky to me - sound is but a minor and I doubt many people will wacth in-car or pit lane for very long . . . most will stick to the directors cut
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on March 16, 2012, 03:07:21 PM
What I like about F1:

Qualifying.
Brundle's pit lane stroll.
In-car fastest qualifying lap.
Certain races.
Podium.
Press conference.

Pit lane camera's might be amusing if you get another 'Dinez in the oven' event.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: trollspeil on March 16, 2012, 10:34:39 PM
The beeb had ads?  :hmmm: Internal ads perhaps, but SkyF1 will be promoting ManU V Bolton or some such as well . .

The other two are quite gimicky to me - sound is but a minor and I doubt many people will wacth in-car or pit lane for very long . . . most will stick to the directors cut

I didn't say the beeb had ads. I meant the usual argument for commercial networks doesn't apply here. The races will all be shown uninterrupted.

Sound would only be minor if you didn't have home theatre.

At least the option to view differently is there. You are stuck with what the beeb want to show you.

Sky F1 will be showing all the races whereas the bbc will only have extended highlights of the half they don't have.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on March 16, 2012, 10:54:35 PM
quite happy not to see Brundle again ... was getting a bit annoying ... never watched any sports with volume turned up beyond norm, what's home theatre?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Titus on March 17, 2012, 11:16:40 PM
I didn't say the beeb had ads. I meant the usual argument for commercial networks doesn't apply here. The races will all be shown uninterrupted.

Sound would only be minor if you didn't have home theatre.

At least the option to view differently is there. You are stuck with what the beeb want to show you.

Sky F1 will be showing all the races whereas the bbc will only have extended highlights of the half they don't have.

Meh, I was really asking why Sky's coverage would be better than the Beeb's last year - enough to justify the change in channel. Sound and (what I would call) gimicky camera options, isn't that at all . . . for me anyway (and I 'd suspect 90% of fans)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on March 18, 2012, 10:30:14 PM
Sky F1 will be showing all the races whereas the bbc will only have extended highlights of the half they don't have.
not quite -- bbc are showing all races in full just not all live --- these "extended highlights" have been extended  ;)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: trollspeil on March 26, 2012, 11:43:08 PM
not quite -- bbc are showing all races in full just not all live --- these "extended highlights" have been extended  ;)

Not according to the BBC. They are only showing extended highlights.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on March 27, 2012, 10:34:24 AM
Not according to the BBC. They are only showing extended highlights.
have seen both races so far in full on bbc, only bits noticeably chopped to any degree were the podium (which you don't need footage to know what happens) & the after race 3 drivers in a row interviews (which are boring & you can get quotes of them from elsewhere with extreme ease)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on March 30, 2012, 10:20:57 AM
Nice to see a bit of a spat so early between Vettel and Karthikeyan.

Not so nice to see the 'we love Bahrain' propaganda being pumped out.  But then again that uprising as been quashed by the West, so not entirely unexpected.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: TheSingularity on April 11, 2012, 12:17:58 PM
So yester Bernie said he reckoned Bahrain would go ahead - and the Jackie Stewart came up with some crap shoot about how it should too.

The Damon Hill said it shouldn't and now the BBC is reporting thatF1 teams expect Bahrain Grand Prix to be called off
 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17676140)

Farce again.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on May 12, 2012, 07:33:35 PM
would seem McLaren have fucked up AGAIN with mr Hamilton's car and not given him enough fuel to get back to pits & get car scrutineered with 1 litre still in tank .... demoted from pole to last -- which IMO is a bit harsh ... but as McLaren have done same before with Hamilton's car they must have decided to hammer home the rules?  :finger:
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on May 12, 2012, 11:04:36 PM
would seem McLaren have fucked up AGAIN with mr Hamilton's car and not given him enough fuel to get back to pits & get car scrutineered with 1 litre still in tank .... demoted from pole to last -- which IMO is a bit harsh ... but as McLaren have done same before with Hamilton's car they must have decided to hammer home the rules?  :finger:
With Hamilton half a second faster than anyone else, it should provide some drama as he makes his way from the back.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on May 13, 2012, 05:53:13 PM
Well done to Maldonado and Williams, but what happened to make their pit garage catch fire after the race?

BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18051779)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Chewie on July 07, 2012, 09:26:06 AM
Fans told "stay away from Silverstone" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18747889)

At least, don't bring your car.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on September 28, 2012, 01:50:01 AM
Seems the rumours about Hamilton joining Mercedes are right. Probably.

Lewis Hamilton set to leave McLaren to join Mercedes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/sep/28/lewis-hamilton-formulaone)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on September 28, 2012, 07:17:52 PM
can stop demonising hamilton as of 2013 then ....
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on September 30, 2014, 06:17:11 PM
Another dead thread. Shows how the bernie circus has dwindled in popularity.
At least the cars now sound like something from an ATARI game circa late seventies
and they still use petrol?
Title: Jules Bianchi
Post by: Q13 on October 05, 2014, 07:00:37 PM
My very best wishes to Jules Bianchi and his family and friends:

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bianchi-moved-to-icu-following-brain-surgery-as-more-details-regarding-crash-emerge (http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bianchi-moved-to-icu-following-brain-surgery-as-more-details-regarding-crash-emerge)

Graphic image:
http://i.imgur.com/n3HKYVk.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/n3HKYVk.jpg)

Thinking of you all.

I look forward to hearing of encouraging news you may recieve in the days, weeks and months ahead.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 06, 2014, 09:22:55 PM
a rather nasty impact, just seen a vid on fb: high speed strike on the lifting tractor, lifting that tractor up in air as Bianchi's out of control car slid scraping under it
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on October 08, 2014, 08:17:11 AM
a rather nasty impact, just seen a vid on fb: high speed strike on the lifting tractor, lifting that tractor up in air as Bianchi's out of control car slid scraping under it


I've seen the video on the Daily Mail website. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-2782638/Footage-emerges-Jules-Bianchi-s-Japanese-Grand-Prix-crash-left-F1-star-severe-head-injury.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-2782638/Footage-emerges-Jules-Bianchi-s-Japanese-Grand-Prix-crash-left-F1-star-severe-head-injury.html)
Absolutely shocking, 750 kilos of F1 car spearing the back end of what 4,6 tons of tractor and lifting it into the air and moving it?! It is a miracle Bianchi is alive.

There were double waved yellows in that sector, why did he speed off the track like that, did he accelerate trying to get heat into his brakes?
It is good on safety gounds that now when there is a safety car the drivers are not allowed to leave more than a couple of car lengths between them and the car in front so they cannot brake and then accelerate.

FIA have said there will be an investigation, first tjing they should do is examine the telementary as to where Bianchi was on the track and his speed relative to the cars in front and behind.

A truely shocking accident.

And Andrea De Cesaris has died in a motorcycle accident at the age of 55. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29501069 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29501069)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Natural Mystic on October 08, 2014, 11:47:02 AM
what a silly dangerous sport.  How many more near fatal accidents before it's banned
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on October 08, 2014, 12:24:08 PM
what a silly dangerous sport.  How many more near fatal accidents before it's banned


It is what men and some women do and like. It is not now a silly dangerous sport, back before the 90's? It was a killer.
You say "how many more near fatal accident's before it is banned"? Okay when are we going to ban people from driving cars,
because of RTC's?

There is a simple explanation for this terrible eventuality and it very very rarely happens, the racing cars were driving around the race track and they should have slowed right down, because the volunteer marshalls were each waving two yellow flags to say there are marshalls on the track. So they should have slowed down to around forty miles an hour if not less given the weather conditions.

Motor racing and motorcycle racing is dangerous, inherently dangerous, but neither should be banned. F1 has done so much over the years, if you were to experience the same crashes as the drivers in F1, you probably wouldn't be able to walk away as they do. And now we have had the first race of the formula E series, basically electrically powered F1 cars. A horrendous crash just before the finish line and the driver just got out of his car to berate the individual to cause hime to catapault, twist int eh air and land on arnco.

No it should not be banned. And motorcycle racing? Apart from the TT and other road races, on track motorcycle racing has taught us all, that motorcyclists on the road are far more liable to damage than a racer, if they come off their motorcycles, because there are such things as walls, hedges and signposts in very close proximity to the public highway. People who ride motorcycles on the public highway? They do not need to be doing stupid speeds to end up in hospital or dead. No they just need to hit a pothole or ride over some oil on the road dumped by a truck or car.

Motor racing is safer than driving on the road, except in the instance of Bianchi, which may be a first.

I won't go into rally sport or the Dakar rally, that is another ball game alltogether.

Thankyou though NM for your comment :)

Motorsport in all its forms won't be banned, because it makes so much money. Bernie Ecclestone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Ecclestone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Ecclestone)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Natural Mystic on October 08, 2014, 01:50:50 PM
Yes I get all the arguments, was just sayin  :hmmm:  :D
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on October 08, 2014, 02:00:11 PM
Yes I get all the arguments, was just sayin  :hmmm:  :D

Boys and their toys ;) :D
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on October 08, 2014, 06:10:49 PM
what a silly dangerous sport.  How many more near fatal accidents before it's banned
so long as the money is behind F1 it will continue, racing is really just a sideshow to attract big business
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on November 23, 2014, 10:37:31 PM
Many many congratualtions to Lewis, to the Williams team and to Sam Bird and Virgin Racing.

A great weekend for British motorsport.

Am I allowed to celebrate this?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: DJ on November 23, 2014, 11:05:18 PM
Many many congratualtions to Lewis, to the Williams team and to Sam Bird and Virgin Racing.

A great weekend for British motorsport.

Am I allowed to celebrate this?

I was watching today, was a great race and good atmosphere too.

Sadly not a great day for Lotus and Rosberg.

I've always liked the fact motor racing is not like sports such as football, if one team wins their supporters will not be cheering celebrating the oppositions win.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Clax on November 24, 2014, 08:34:08 PM
I was watching today, was a great race and good atmosphere too.

Sadly not a great day for Lotus and Rosberg.

I've always liked the fact motor racing is not like sports such as football, if one team wins their supporters will not be cheering celebrating the oppositions win.

What does the bold bit mean?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on November 25, 2014, 08:46:37 PM
What does the bold bit mean?

Motorsport fans on the whole will applaude the second, third, fourth etc placed team or driver, irrespective,
unlike football fans.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: wotan on November 26, 2014, 02:52:09 AM
Motorsport fans on the whole will applaude the second, third, fourth etc placed team or driver, irrespective,
unlike football fans.

Last year F1 fans were booing Vettel.

Mansell had his haters.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on November 26, 2014, 03:02:17 AM
Last year F1 fans were booing Vettel.

Mansell had his haters.

And Shuie too, but on the whole, unlike football fans motorsport fans don't go around kicking the sheit out of opposing fans.
Webber wisely moved out of F1 into endurance racing, read for that Le Mans. Webber has urged Button to join him there.
I can assure you, after viewing on TV or perhaps if you are lucky enough to experience Le Mans first hand, the greatest ever
motorsporting event, tears are shed by everyone at the start of the race and at the end of the race, both for the winners and losers.

The habit of booing F1 drivers is a sad and recent phenomena. There is no need to. Maybe it just displays the ignorance of the recent arrogant rich who attend F1 events?

Nice to see you again Wotan, you must be early morning EST? No it is not EST is it. I can't see my clocks, I just know you are hours behind me.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: wotan on November 26, 2014, 03:08:31 AM
And Shuie too, but on the whole, unlike football fans motorsport fans don't go around kicking the sheit out of opposing fans.
Webber wisely moved out of F1 into endurance racing, read for that Le Mans. Webber has urged Button to join him there.
I can assure you, after viewing on TV or perhaps if you are lucky enough to experience Le Mans first hand, the greatest ever
motorsporting event, tears are shed by everyone at the start of the race and at the end of the race, both for the winners and losers.

The habit of booing F1 drivers is a sad and recent phenomena. There is no need to. Maybe it just displays the ignorance of the recent arrogant rich who attend F1 events?

The arrogant rich boo from their luxury suites, not from the track, aren't the drivers and their WAgs recent arrogant rich?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on November 26, 2014, 03:16:38 AM
The arrogant rich boo from their luxury suites, not from the track, aren't the drivers and their WAgs recent arrogant rich?


Some get Mummy and Daddy and their parents corporate interests to buy them a seat, as happened with Catherham at Abu Dhabi and I could continue.
Bernie wants money, he has been quoted as saying I want old people to follow F1 because they are the ones with money, the bloody idiot is going to nail the sport. I have become a new devottee and advocate of the FIA recognised Formula E http://www.fiaformulae.com/ (http://www.fiaformulae.com/) .

Yes the drivers are way overpaid, but what sportsperson mentioned frequently in the back pages isn't these days? Commercial interests piggy back on their success and turn it into pay for view.

We have had pay per view to watch men duff each other up for years now  :scrap: . How about equality for the ladies? Pay per view to watch them wrestling in high cut one-pieceswimwear or ............  ::)

In the States you have Nascar you once had the Indy 500 and other formula's of single seater open top sportscar racing. It was not elitist, this is why ecclestone's F1 never took off in the states. £20 for a ticket as opposed to ecclestone's £150.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: wotan on November 26, 2014, 03:32:31 AM
I've always been a fan of MotoGP. Bought my first motorbike at age 16, paid £17 for it. Gave up after a nasty crash on the North Circular.
Must be in the blood, my son and grandson both ride. They are built of sterner stuff than me, they haven't let accidents deter them.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on November 26, 2014, 03:36:28 AM
I've always been a fan of MotoGP. Bought my first motorbike at age 16, paid £17 for it. Gave up after a nasty crash on the North Circular.
Must be in the blood, my son and grandson both ride. They are built of sterner stuff than me, they haven't let accidents deter them.

You want to watch the movie "The Road". I'll pm you a link :)
Title: Forza Scuderia Italia
Post by: Q13 on March 29, 2015, 10:21:02 PM
What a beautiful result from Malasyia?
The German national and the Italian team too.

Bless you Schumi and bless scuderia ferrari and Vettel.
I make no apologies.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on May 21, 2015, 10:55:56 PM
Lewis had come a long way from his starring appearance on Blue Peter hasn't he?
£100millions for three years driving a pointed arrow.
That amount could buy him a lot more music studios :(
At least we get to see what he looked at in the latest ad I saw her in. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whgvpYPNxQk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whgvpYPNxQk)
23 seconds in..........................Oh Lewis honey!!!
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13 on July 19, 2015, 08:59:43 PM
RIP Jules, so sad you put up such a hard fight.
Condonlencies and thoughts to your family and friends.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on March 20, 2016, 07:17:51 PM
A new season, and new regulations, some of which make you wonder....

Who seriously thought that dropping cars from qualifying before they have a chance to improve their time would be a good idea? And, in particular, dropping all but two cars from Q3 - what did they think would happen?

Anyway, it seems that Mercedes still have the best car, by quite a margin, and it took Hamilton to fuck up his start to make at least the first few laps interesting.

Had it not been for Raikkonen's engine failure, and the red flag following Alonso's accident, Hamilton might have finished well back. As it was, he barely scraped home in front of Vettel's Ferrari, despite Ferrari's strange decision to send Vettel back out on supersoft tyres after the suspension.

I also noted that Hamilton was the only driver asking his engineer which buttons to press, when he knew that such radio communications are now banned. Perhaps a case of not doing his homework. ;)

However, I have a horrible feeling we're going to see more races led from start to finish by Mercedes this season....
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on March 21, 2016, 08:19:10 PM
So much for being the cutting edge of motor sport when idiots who run it screw up qualifying and Ferrari with their tyre choice?
As you say: "Lewis: What button should I press?" " 'C' minor Lewis"


F1:  "Lewis is compelled to come in and put his slippers on to run the next six hundred yards, whilst seb is still out there on his brouges making good use of them but does he have enough puff as max is coming up on him barefoot".

The sport is a shambles.

I didn't give a damn about NASCAR, those ovals and hillbilly hicks. That was until I drove a nascar sim. I know it is a different form of motorsport along with E racing and nascar, F1 though is by and large ridiculously pretentious.

Le Mans 2016, just a few months away :)

Lewis wouldn't fare well, partying the night before then having to do an F1 season, almost, in a day.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on May 15, 2016, 05:44:04 PM
The Spanish Grand Prix today was at least entertaining, and that was all down to one thing - both Mercedes cars crashing out on lap one. :)

Perhaps if a similar situation could be arranged in every race, is might be worth watching....
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on May 15, 2016, 11:51:46 PM
It was marvellous Oake and records were made. An eighteen year old, in a half decent car, on probably less than £30m a year in his first week in a new car, beat everyone, second ear of F1, helped and abetted of course by Red Bull ensuring they made the headlines, forever, as being the team with the youngest ever F1 winner, put rickyardo on a three stop to ensure he didn't win. Hard luck cheesy teeth, don't you understand the game? You are paid enough to put up and shut up and play the game.

Something Bernie alluded to a few weeks back drivers are just there to drive the cars in the circus.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on June 18, 2016, 07:29:01 PM
Interesting new street circuit at Baku. Hope they have plenty of fuel for the safety car, because it's going to cover some miles. :)

McLaren still streets ahead of the competition, and all Hamilton had to do was put in a half-decent qualifying lap to ensure his team locked out the front row, then use the rest of Q3 to fight Rosberg for pole.

But, no, he had to go balls out from the off, and finished up binning it without recording a banker lap.

Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on June 19, 2016, 07:03:34 PM
F1: Motorsport for boys. When they grow up, they go to Le Mans.
Why?

Because men wouldn't bow before that runt bernie.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on June 19, 2016, 07:08:44 PM
Interesting new street circuit at Baku. Hope they have plenty of fuel for the safety car, because it's going to cover some miles. :)

McLaren still streets ahead of the competition, and all Hamilton had to do was put in a half-decent qualifying lap to ensure his team locked out the front row, then use the rest of Q3 to fight Rosberg for pole.

But, no, he had to go balls out from the off, and finished up binning it without recording a banker lap.


McLaren are a mid field runner these days  :o
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on June 19, 2016, 07:11:05 PM
McLaren are a mid field runner these days  :o

No they are not Barky, look at the constructors points table.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on June 20, 2016, 07:20:01 AM
McLaren are a mid field runner these days  :o

I meant Mercedes, of course.   :-[
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on June 20, 2016, 02:16:34 PM
No they are not Barky, look at the constructors points table.
7th out of 11 ... & drivers 16th & 17th
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on June 20, 2016, 05:28:35 PM
7th out of 11 ... & drivers 16th & 17th

Lower midfield constructors*. Bottom end drivers.

Yes I too expected lots of action at Baku, didn't happen.

Please do record or watch Quest tonight at 8pm for the summary of Le Mans, I'd like to make a convert out of anyone vaguely interested :)

*how many constructors points compared to those of Mercedes? Now I admit I am just screwing you aroundwith statistical analysis ;)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on June 20, 2016, 05:34:17 PM
Lower midfield constructors*. Bottom end drivers.

Yes I too expected lots of action at Baku, didn't happen.

Please do record or watch Quest tonight at 8pm for the summary of Le Mans, I'd like to make a convert out of anyone vaguely interested :)

*how many constructors points compared to those of Mercedes? Now I admit I am just screwing you aroundwith statistical analysis ;)
am interested in le mans, just don't have ability to watch it, never heard of 'quest' ....... Mercedes 258 - Mclaren 24
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on June 20, 2016, 07:27:07 PM
am interested in le mans, just don't have ability to watch it, never heard of 'quest' ....... Mercedes 258 - Mclaren 24


Barky you have 35 mins. Quest (the channel) is free to air on Freeview otherwise it is accessible on sky.

Freeview channel 37, sky 144 and virgin 172

http://www.tvguide.co.uk/?catcolor=&systemid=7&thistime=19&thisday=06/20/2016&gridspan=03:00&view=0&gw=1877 (http://www.tvguide.co.uk/?catcolor=&systemid=7&thistime=19&thisday=06/20/2016&gridspan=03:00&view=0&gw=1877)

Stats, thank you, Mercedes 258 and Mclaren 24. Hardly the middle of the field? Within the bottom ten percenters.

See how Manor Marrussia, formurly of F1, now Manor, how they did at Le Mans :)

My pleasure Barky, anytime.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on June 20, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
There is a quest+1 channel.

Many years ago I think there was an Ecosse Scuderia Ferrari team. ;)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on June 20, 2016, 09:09:34 PM
There is a quest+1 channel.

Many years ago I think there was an Ecosse Scuderia Ferrari team. ;)
on a relay transmitter way out here, very limited freeview channels & hills get in way of sky signal .... and +1 quest doesn't seem available over web tv .... just hoping fibre broadband supplied tv comes soon!
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on June 21, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
on a relay transmitter way out here, very limited freeview channels & hills get in way of sky signal .... and +1 quest doesn't seem available over web tv .... just hoping fibre broadband supplied tv comes soon!


(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkk7BeekD7U#)

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnAGg81OREU#)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on December 16, 2016, 11:07:16 AM
Quote
Lewis Hamilton says Mercedes must consult him on who should replace Nico Rosberg next season but warned them against signing a big name like Fernando Alonso.

Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/dec/15/lewis-hamilton-f1-mercedes-valtteri-bottas-fernando-alonso-williams?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=204353&subid=1399741&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2)

Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on December 19, 2016, 06:22:51 PM
Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/dec/15/lewis-hamilton-f1-mercedes-valtteri-bottas-fernando-alonso-williams?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=204353&subid=1399741&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2)

Sorry Oake for not replying sooner. I feel lewis may have a problem with anyone given his flamboyance and heart on the sleeve.
Is F1 subscription only next year?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on December 19, 2016, 07:43:23 PM
Sorry Oake for not replying sooner. I feel lewis may have a problem with anyone given his flamboyance and heart on the sleeve.
Is F1 subscription only next year?

I believe C4 have two more years before Sky gets exclusive rights.

Possible 2017 Calendar (https://f1broadcasting.co/2016/09/29/predicting-the-2017-calendar-pick-order/)

Some live races, the rest highlights.

I don't have Sky. Satellite dishes are not allowed where I live. Conservation area.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on December 19, 2016, 08:00:17 PM
I believe C4 have two more years before Sky gets exclusive rights.

Possible 2017 Calendar (https://f1broadcasting.co/2016/09/29/predicting-the-2017-calendar-pick-order/)

Some live races, the rest highlights.

I don't have Sky. Satellite dishes are not allowed where I live. Conservation area.

AONB NO LNB. Ridiculous and retrogressive, just so visitors can look at where you live and say "how quaint" in their ludicrous naivety. I have such a beef with such stuff. I live on a mixed social housing/ private (ex council estate). Can't have two dishes, need planning permission for a motorized oversized dish. It is ridiculous. I am the only one in the neighbourhood to be proud to have a tree in both front and back gardens.
Everywhere else lawned paved shingled. When I see sparrows come into the trees to pick off the insects, it is uplifting.

My sympathies go out to you Oake.

And thank you for the info. :)

They won't even allow a dish set against a wall and painted in the same colour. No UPVC for you then Oake. I bet though you have got recycle bins* scattered about your property though. Oh f*ck Q's off on one, again!

*F*ck I spent a week being concerned with people and their recycle bins in an AONB, well on Dartmoor actually.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on January 16, 2017, 04:47:37 PM
Good luck to Valtteri.
New regulations new cars could he upstage Lewis?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on January 24, 2017, 10:25:41 AM
Bernie's been sacked (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jan/23/bernie-ecclestone-no-longer-f1-chief-executive?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=209881&subid=1399741&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2)

Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on January 24, 2017, 05:27:57 PM
Bernie's been sacked (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jan/23/bernie-ecclestone-no-longer-f1-chief-executive?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=209881&subid=1399741&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2)

Thanks Oake. :)

Bye bye Bernie, not a moment too soon. The commercial rights management has been crying out for change in so many ways for years.
I look forward to a refreshing new approach and one which diversifies its revenue streams and distributes the revenues more fairly.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on March 26, 2017, 07:13:36 PM
Australian Grand Prix

Channel 4 managed to stretch their "highlights" show to nearly 3 hours, when they'd still have needed padding to fill 30 minutes. ;)

Vettel made an uncharacteristically slow start, but continued to put pressure on Hamilton. Hamilton seemed determined to outrun the Ferrari, but managed to wreck his tyres in the process, and had to pit early. Vettel made the most of a clear track, while Hamilton got stuck behind Verstappen. Vettel finally changed tyres when he'd built a sufficient lead to stay ahead of Hamilton, and there he stayed.

Hamilton seemed to settle for second place quite early in the race, and just cruised home, knowing that Bottas wouldn't be allowed to pass him.

Overtaking didn't happen, unless somebody made a mistake, or had a technical problem, so, despite C4's attempts to put a positive spin on it, this was not exactly riveting viewing.

The only positive thing is that Ferrari seem to have got their act together, and can provide some competition to Mercedes. Red Bull are close, but not quite quick enough, but nobody else has the pace to worry the top three teams.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on March 26, 2017, 07:28:54 PM
Expect the same old same old for the next 19 races.
One upside Oake we won't see that aged grey haired man lurking about in the background.
Think his name was Bernie, wasn't it?
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on April 30, 2017, 01:01:12 PM
Ferrari 1 - 2 Here we go !!! :)  forza Italia!
Title: Re: F1
Post by: bababarararacucucudadada on June 25, 2017, 01:32:26 PM
Just about to try to watch the Azerbaijan GP.

Will the GLW let me watch all of it?

Will I stay awake all the way through? (Like golf I find F1 a fantastic start to a Sunday nap.)

Go Lewisham 'Ilton!
Title: Re: F1
Post by: bababarararacucucudadada on June 25, 2017, 03:49:25 PM
1. YES.

2. NO.

Poor ol' Lewis.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on June 26, 2017, 07:46:53 PM

Poor ol' Lewis.
"Poor ol' Lewis", running fifth behind Vettel, wanted his team to instruct Bottas (running third) to slow down and block Vettel so that he (Hamilton) could pass them both.

The team declined to do so.

It seems Hamilton doesn't think Bottas deserves equal treatment.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: bababarararacucucudadada on June 26, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
He wouldn't, would he?

All he cares about is winning or, at a push, overtaking the car in front any way he can.

Surely the real villain there was Vettell who crashed into Hamilton and then bizarrely benefitted from the penalty.

Hamilton had the race in his pocket until he had to pit - and that was just plain unlucky.
Title: Re: F1
Post by: oake on June 26, 2017, 09:16:32 PM
He wouldn't, would he?

All he cares about is winning or, at a push, overtaking the car in front any way he can.

Surely the real villain there was Vettell who crashed into Hamilton and then bizarrely benefitted from the penalty.

Hamilton had the race in his pocket until he had to pit - and that was just plain unlucky.

Well, Vettel's penalty didn't exactly benefit him - he would have won the race without it. I'm not saying he didn't deserve it, before somebody jumps down my throat! He behaved like a twat, even if he did believe that Hamilton braked deliberately and inappropriately.

Hamilton was unlucky to have his headrest come loose, or you might argue that Mercedes were careless to not check it while the race was red flagged. Hamilton does have a habit of chucking his headrest out of the car when he gets out, and that's probably why it came adrift later. :)
Title: Re: F1
Post by: barky on June 27, 2017, 05:00:25 PM
neither car would have had properly up to temperature working brakes, explains why vettel ran into back of hamilton ..... hamilton's done far worse to others than vettel did to him so he has little grounds for complaint especially as no damage was done
Title: Re: F1
Post by: Q13.1 on August 26, 2017, 03:18:32 PM
Congratulations to Lewis for equaling Michael's 68 all time pole record.